Question: Beloved Osho,
when does the disciple's freedom become his master's condemnation?
Osho: Milarepa, the
authentic disciple has never condemned the master. In
fact, he cannot condemn the master; the master has
become his own heart and being. To condemn the master is
to condemn oneself. But yes, there are so-called
disciples. Your question can only be relevant to those
so-called disciples. In the first place, they are not
disciples this is condemnation enough, not of the master
but of their own being, of their own sincerity, of their
own authenticity. As far as the master is concerned, he
is the freedom of the disciple.
If the master's being in any way becomes a hindrance to
the freedom of the disciple, the master is not true.
So your question raises a very complex experience of the
relationship between master and disciple. If it is
authentic, then the disciple never feels himself
separate from the master. There is no question that he
would act in any way or behave in any way in the name of
freedom which goes against the master. It simply is not
He breathes the master; in a certain way, the master and
his own being have become so deeply involved that it is
difficult to make demarcations, where is the master and
where is the disciple. They are one heart, beating in
two bodies. But if the disciple is pseudo, not a hundred
percent but just so-so, a lukewarm disciple, then he is
going to condemn the master sooner or later. Then it
becomes almost a destiny which can be predicted, that he
will condemn the master, because the master and his
being have never become one.
He was never able to dissolve totally into the master or
let the master dissolve totally into him. He cannot
forgive it; neither can he forget it. He will do things,
consideredly, which go against the master and his
teachings, just to condemn him and to protect himself:
"Why have I become separated? The master was not worthy,
I had to separate. The master was not truly a master, so
the question of my being a disciple to him does not
arise." To protect his ego, he has to condemn the
And the only way to condemn is to do things exactly
against what the master has been teaching. Every
breath of the master's life is devoted to a certain
phenomenon: a certain ecstasy, a certain experience
beyond which there is nothing higher or holier. The
disciple will do things against the master just to
protect his ego. If the master is also a false one, then
certainly he will feel the condemnation and he will
He will also condemn the disciple. But if the master is
authentic, he will simply laugh at the stupidity of this
ignorant man who does not know that he is cutting the
same branch on which he is sitting by his acts he is
simply becoming a laughingstock. But not for a moment
can the authentic master think that he can be condemned.
Thousands may be against him, thousands may be in
opposition to him, thousands may come to be disciples
and leave him at any point in the journey, but he will
not feel any condemnation.
Simply a great compassion, that it is not their fault.
If you are selling glasses ask Premda, my optician if
you are selling glasses in a city of the blind you
should know that nobody is going to accept that you have
brought a great blessing to them. The people are blind,
they have never seen anything, and your glasses cannot
And all great masters have been selling glasses to the
blind. If the blind are ready to follow all the
instructions, disciplines, perhaps their eyes may start
opening, because nobody is born spiritually blind.
Only eyes are closed, and you have forgotten how to open
your own eyes. The whole function of the master is to
help you to open your eyes. Sometimes it hurts. It is a
surgery. And the disciple becomes offended when
something hurts. But the master's intention is never to
hurt you; his only intention is to help you to a better
and more spiritual, more beautiful, more immortal life.
How can one even think to do something, in the name of
freedom, against his own master?
The master is his freedom, and if something is going
against the master, that is not freedom. You are going
against yourself and against freedom. It may appear on
the surface that you are acting on your own, but you
will harm yourself. If you think harming yourself is
your freedom, destroying the work that the master has
been doing on your eyes... if you think it is your
freedom to destroy the glasses that have been provided
to you, then you are behaving in an absolutely idiotic
To find the master is a blessing, and to dissolve
oneself into the master is the most delicious experience
experience of freedom and joy, a kind of unburdening of
all the unnecessary load, an experience of lightness and
But it is very difficult to see one's own faults. By our
very nature we are made up in such a way that we can see
the faults of others, but we cannot see our own fault.
And our own fault may be big enough; then too, we will
not be able to see because it is our own. We have become
identified with it, it is our personality. If somebody
points it out, it is going to hurt us.
The ancient Sufi proverb is, "One can see a small piece
of sand in somebody else's eye, but one cannot see a
whole camel in one's own eye." The big-mouthed frog is
sitting by his pond in the jungles of Goa one day, when
the tiger comes by and says, "Hey man, have you heard?
There is a big full-moon party down at the beach
The frog opens his huge mouth and says, "Faarrr out!"
"Yeah," says the tiger, "and there will be lots of
dancing sannyasin girls."
"Faarrr out!" says the frog.
"And there will be lots of jazz music and skinheads,"
says the tiger.
"Faarrr out," says the frog.
"And there will be lots of booze and plenty to eat."
"Faarrr out," says the frog.
"One thing only," says the tiger, "has to be remembered:
that people with big mouths are not allowed to go."
The frog shuts his mouth with a `bang' and says, "Poor
crocodile, he will be so disappointed."
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